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...Home ... Editorial ... Columns ..Column Story Saturday: April 5, 2014


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Greg Neilson
Greg Neilson


 Yes, Microsoft Should Add a Lab Exam...
Greg shares his take on this and other current issues in IT certification.
by Greg Neilson  
11/13/2002 -- Over the past few columns I've been talking in general terms about some suggested approaches to certification. This time I will discuss some recent issues in the world of certification. I'm always interested to hear your feedback, so please keep posting your comments below.

Premium Certifications
Since the introduction of the MCSA certification, Microsoft has been attempting to reposition the MCSE as a premium-level of certification -- as I see it, almost as a replacement for the now-obsolete MCSE+I. The MCSE+I never really caught on, appealing mainly to folks who had already taken more exams than was necessary for the MCSE. (As I've said before, I only completed it because I needed one more exam to get an introductory bonus TechNet subscription after my original subscription expired).

Yes, the Windows 2000 MCSE exams are much harder than those in the old NT 4.0 program; however, I don't believe that the MCSE will be truly accepted as a premium-level certification until it contains a hands-on lab component. No matter how hard Microsoft makes their exams and how closely they say they map exam objectives to skills required in the real world, only when the exams can verify that the test-taker can actually do the tasks will it be really accepted as a peer of certifications like Cisco's CCIE. If Microsoft continues down its current path, the exams are going to become more and more like tests of your English reading and comprehension skills, although no doubt they will still test your Windows knowledge.

Let's move on to Novell and the temporary lowering of requirements for its Master Certified Novell Engineer (MCNE) title. I don't get Ñovell's thinking on this. By allowing CNEs to become Master CNEs with only two exams, it devalues all those who already have their MCNE. Even worse, by making all current MCNEs complete the same two exams to maintain their certification, it sends a message that their current certification has no additional value above a CNE. (In the interests of disclosure, I should say here that I received my MCNE via the upgrade path from the original ECNE certification when the MCNE was first established. But I still had to complete many more than two exams to get the title!). The only motivation I can think of is perhaps this is an ill-considered ploy to get CNEs certified on NetWare 6 without going through the controversy and pain of yet another continuing certification requirement, as was recently done with NetWare 5.x.

In my own team, I need more and more advanced Citrix staff, so I am encouraging folks who already significant exposure to Citrix MetaFrame to upgrade their CCA certification to the higher-level CCEA. I'm interested to see what ranking, if any, you gentle readers assign to it in CertCities.com's upcoming Hot Certs for 2003 article. (Editor's Note: The article will be published in early December, and reader interest will be a major factor in if and where certifications make the list).

Formal Education WITH Certifications
One of the questions I'm always asked is whether people should complete a degree or a certification. (If you're interested in this topic and haven't yet read Steve Crandall's CertCities.com article "College vs. Certification," I suggest you check it out.)

One interesting development I'm seeing in this area is universities offering undergraduate and graduate degrees that include compulsory components for vendor certifications. For example, a program called "Master of Network and System Administration" available at an Australian university consists of Win2K MCSE as half the course requirements. The other half consists of courses in general networking, security theory, ethics, etc. This seems to be a good compromise, and perhaps one day may end the idea of having to make the choice between a certification or a degree.

As someone who intends to complete a Master's degree in IT during the next few years, I guess the real test for me is whether I would consider enrolling on such a program myself. I've only just become aware of these kinds of programs, so I'm still not sure. Perhaps my biggest fear would be in future years in discussing the contents of my Masters program with others and having to explain what an MCSE was! (Not that I'm suggesting that certifications today are worthless, but I believe that as our profession matures we will likely move to implementing published bodies of knowledge and certification exams that are vendor-neutral, in the same way PMI does for project managers. Although CompTIA today would be the logical cross-industry body to do something like this, unfortunately their focus is in providing certification for entry-level staff, rather than at the practicing professional level). I'm interested to hear your take on this topic -- do part-certification, part-traditional education degrees appeal to you? How do you think they'll hold up over time?

This will be my last column for 2002. Over the next few weeks I have a few exams myself to prepare for (certification and otherwise!) and hopefully still some find time to enjoy summer here in Australia. In the meantime, have a great holiday season with your families, and I'll see you all back here in 2003.

Comments on the above topics? Questions for Greg? Post them below!


Greg Neilson, MCSE+Internet, MCNE, PCLP, is a Contributing Editor for Microsoft Certified Professional Magazine and a manager at a large IT services firm in Australia. He's the author of Lotus Domino Administration in a Nutshell (O'Reilly and Associates, ISBN 1-56592-717-6). You can reach him at Attn: Greg.

 


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11/14/02: IanG says: Well said Greg. I am looking at the combination (degree + MS)through the Uni - looks good and ends up pretty well priced. Also MS really does need a lab section to each of its exams - it would give the certification much more clout.
11/14/02: Chris Moller says: I have never taken a lab exam, and I have never even seen a general outline of what happens or what is covered during such an exam. I suppose one would be asked to perform a large number of different tasks in a given period of time without recourse to books or notes. In one sense, being able to sit down and do these tasks from memory/experience is a good idea, but don't people do the exercises already from the study guides who have no experience? At this point, I don't see that this would logically lead to better candidates, as many of the exams involve some amount of simulation. I choose to view certification as an admission ticket for consideration by potential employers, not a free pass for a position at a company. I would recommend that others do the same.
11/15/02: Frank Kalthof says: Colleges need to get on the stick, 5 years ago I was enrolled in a CompSCi program learning basic and PASCAL. I couldn't see how this would help a network admin so I obtained my CNE and MCSE. Now I'm an IT manager and would still not use college to get this kind of knowledge. Univ of Pheonix is trying to combine certifications but who is impressed be Univ of Pheonix on a resume. It needs to be combined in the mainstream. As for the Lab for the MSCE, a written test gives you a drivers permit not a drivers license. YES, they need a Lab.
11/15/02: Phil says: The CNE does have some hands on tasks that need to be completed in order to pass the test. My CNE 5 test included some simulations using console 1 and netware administrator..questions I would only really know the answers too if I either played with the software or had prior experience. The MCSE should have hands on questions but then again, some of the exams should not assume as much as they do either. What corporation in their right mind would use a Windows 2000 box as a router connecting segments instead of using a hardware router??? A lab would be great for the cert and would make it even more difficult to obtain but then again, how difficult is it in windows to setup things such as DNS, DHCP, VPN's and routing? not very hard. Maybe that is why it was never included...dont know.
11/15/02: Anonymous says: I dont think the current Novell MCNE requirements devalue current MCNE's at all. Companies can change and are free to change their testing requirements at any time. I find Novell's current MCNE prom attractive and am pursuing it. Its a temp promo. The value of the cert is what you get out of it and how the IT world views it. I believe anyone with an MCNE is regarded as somone with more knowledge and experience than a regular CNE or MCSE. I would not feel bad if Microsoft decided to cut the requirements for the MCSE down to 4 exams as a promo because I know what I know and what I learned and noone can take that away from me. The value is in the experience more than anything.
11/17/02: Your Daddy says: Hey, Frank. Maybe if you could spell "Pheonix" it would have a tendancy to make a better impression on your resume. And the Business Manager for Motorola at Austin, got his degree through an excellerated degree program like those offered through UoP. So I would say that the industry is willing to accept these degree platforms, as well as incorporating certification paths into the degree plan. Besides, these programs are backed by their respective accreditation institutions. It's not like the candidates are Photoshopping their own parchement. They are completing the requisites to attain their degree. However, by cutting short requirements as is the case with Novell, I do feel the value of the program as a whole is misplaced. And as far as I'm concerned all technical certification paths should have a hands on lab. What good are even the entry level exams that claim to test "hands on experience" like the A+ when in fact they do not test by means of hands on? My 2 cents. Your Daddy, A+, Network+, MCP, MCSA, MCSE, MCDBA, CCNA, CCDA.
11/19/02: Johnn says: I think that a lab exam for MCSE would be an excellent idea. This would eliminate the "paper MCSE" stigma that devaluates our MCSE cert. Then people would be forced to know the subject and not just the answers to questions.
11/19/02: Anonymous says: Knowing the populairty of the Windows OS, whether desktop or NOS and considering Microsoft's intention's on making the 2000 MCSE as hard as possible due to the NT4 braindump issues, why did they not inclde sims in their tests? It would make the exam harder and make sure that the candidate understood how to perform certain admin tasks. The CNE exam, some of them had to do things in a nw admin sim like create users and assign them to a home container or even create print queues. They even made you, at times, using NDs manager, locate the server in the ring that is having problems. Makes me wonder if this is one of those instances where Microsoft is the last to catch on to an idea. Like with their directory services..years after Novell's. The MCSE should test your knowledge on things like even creating users in AD and assigning them rights to dial in or create A records or even setup your own DNS. No innovation at all with these. But do they care??
11/19/02: Anonymous says: this website should change there name for certcities.com to microsoftcertcities.com because that is what every talks about on this site.
11/20/02: Anonymous says: Uh... "Your Daddy"? It's "accelerated", not 'excellerated'.... how's your resume treating you?
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